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Samer Q N
Posted: September 17, 2008 04:56 pm
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69-year-old woman who presented with chest pain and diffuse ST segment elevation on electrocardiogram. Cardiac Enzymes were moderately elevated. Coronary angiography revealed normal coronary arteries.

In the Picture attached is the End-diastolic (A) and end-systolic (B) frames from a left ventriculogram.

What's the Diagnosis?

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Dr.Leo1984
Posted: September 17, 2008 08:49 pm
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QUOTE (Samer Q N @ September 17, 2008 02:54 pm)
with chest pain and diffuse ST segment elevation on electrocardiogram.

really i do not know how to read the echo ,, but from these info.

it is Pericarditis

thanks for sharing dr. samir.. keep on please
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Samer Q N
Posted: September 18, 2008 12:24 pm
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Dear Luay, in pericarditis you wont have elevated cardiac enzymes and more importantly you wont get this ventriculogram.
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Posted: September 18, 2008 04:20 pm
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but what about the diffuse ST elevation??

then can you tell me what are shown in the ventriculogram. ????

myocarditis may cause elevated cardiac enzymes mo?
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Posted: September 18, 2008 04:46 pm
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I think it is diffuse myocarditis unsure.gif unsure.gif ...
Can anybody explain those pictures to me?
i donnu what are they! ph34r.gif
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Posted: September 18, 2008 04:59 pm
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chest pain and diffuse ST segment elevation on electrocardiogram. Cardiac Enzymes were moderately elevated. Coronary angiography revealed normal coronary arteries.


this is myocarditis

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left ventriculogram


(though not sure) i see after the end of systole a lot of blood is left in the left ventricle i.e. impaired contraction

given the myocarditis above my Dx would be post myocarditis dilated cardiomyopathy

please do correct me if im wrong and i would appreciate it if someone can tell me more about the left ventriculogram.


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Samer Q N
Posted: September 19, 2008 12:43 pm
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Hey guys, its not Myocarditis, the Endomyocardial biopsy findings in this condition ranged from no evidence of myocarditis to evidence of inflammation. But myocarditis is one of the mechanisms that is postulated to cause this condition.

In the pictures, is a catheter inside the left ventricle giving a material inside the left ventricle and visualized on a screen, one picture shows the lumen of the left ventricle at the end of Diastole which is normal, and the other shows it at the end of Systole which shows a large area of the left ventricle not contracting.


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Posted: September 19, 2008 02:11 pm
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then we are waiting for the reply
but samer
can you summarize the causes of diffuse ST elevation??
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Posted: September 19, 2008 06:14 pm
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Samer, you're talking here about decreased wall motion which can happen after an infarction. if it's a recent myocardial infarction and the ST elevation is still there then it's an aneurysm complicating the infarction.

When you say 'diffuse' ST elevation, it usually means pericarditis or myocarditis.
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Samer Q N
Posted: September 20, 2008 01:01 am
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Luay, the diffuse ST elevation can happen in the case of a large MI, Myocarditis, Pericarditis, cardiac tissue injury or scar and this case smile.gif. Pls add if you know more.

Numan, good answer but unfortunately its not it, the angiography revealed normal coronaries, so its not MI, nor post MI Aneurysm.
The suggestion of an aneurysm can hold if its caused by something other than MI like HOCM [especially the Mid Cavity variant], but the patient doesnt have a Hx of HOCM, and there are no indicatives of an obstruction on the Ventriculogram.

The aneurysm of the LV caused by chronic Chaga's disease is more like it since it can cause an apical aneurysm like the one seen, but ECG will often show an abnormality of conduction [arrhythmia like bundle block....] and can show ST-T wave changes, but not ST Elevation. and it usually causes such an aneurysm with a valvular lesion, such as a regurgitation which is not present in this case. How Chaga's disease affects Cardiac enzymes i have no idea??

You guys are focusing on the ECG findings while you should be focusing on the LV akinesia shown in the ventriculogram.

OK its not an aneurysm. Dig deeper guys.
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