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alisagban
Posted: November 21, 2007 02:29 pm
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Dear All,

Our educational system is rubbish. I am sorry to say this but medical education in recent 10 yrs has changed dramatically. I have worked with so many medical students here in the UK and have asked them about there curriculum. they don't know about baily and love or davidson's text. all they know about few small lecture notes and simple books.

I finished my MRCS reading only 3 or 4 silly small books, but what helped mastering clinical examinations and mastering clinical judgement.

This is the way how medical students study in this country

what we have in Iraq is just filling our brains with rubbish informations about rare and congenital diseases and overlooked practical side of medicine

we used to spent alot of time attending these boring lectures and at the end of the day all people passed. those who attended and those who didn't

and alhumdullah i haven't attended any single lecture

think about ... and raise your concerns to whom it may concerns

if you need any help I could open channel between you and Iraqi Medical Student at the Imperial Medical school in London

Let me know
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Dr.Leo1984
Posted: November 21, 2007 03:14 pm
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so if we will not attend the lectures nor read Baily and Davidson what shall we do then?
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Posted: November 21, 2007 03:20 pm
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والله تسويلنة فضل ابو الشباب اذا تكلنة شنسوي؟............ولو ما اتصور انت تكدر ما تسوي شي صراحة اكثر من الحجي مع احتراماتي مو لان انت متريد تسوي شي بس لان الوضع بصراحة صار بعد مابيه امل
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Posted: November 21, 2007 03:59 pm
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Exactly Dr. you said it all.

Medical education is not all about rigorousness of the curriculum. Probably Iraqis Medical Schools teach one of the most extensive gross anatomy courses in the world !!! While the practical and clinical part is so overlooked.
This is complete nonesense.

But since you have such a reamrkable experience it'd be greatly appreciated if you could give us some general tips on what to concentrate on and whatnot smile.gif

I'm very interested in communicating with the Iraqi medical student you metioned as well.

Regrads

PS: does FAAO stand for Fellow of the American Academy of Osteopathy? I couldn't help but presume you have an MRCS from UK and an FAAO from US (I hope I'm not being too personal)
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alisagban
Posted: November 21, 2007 04:16 pm
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Dear Colleagues,

I am now chairing the juniors doctors and trainees committee at Iraqi Medical association in the UK.

I have lobbied for the last few months here in the UK with my senior colleagues at IWA-UK, but we have no support from your college deanery. Your college staffs haven’t got the stamina to play this game hardly with British authorities there in Baghdad.

The source of this hurtful decision is the British council in Baghdad. I don't blame them, our system according to you first and according to there observation is rubbish. Iraqi doctors who recently want to train in the UK can't do that because their High Skilled Migrant Visa refused as consequences of this decision. Simply they can't get enough points.

I could sit here in the UK and say f*** off. I have my job and my family, and I am British citizen, why should I bother myself with those lazy people. BUT I WONT SAY THAT NEVER!!! bcmf/thmbup.gif

I am Iraqi and I am a graduate of this college and proud to be ... and instead of being passive we have to ask questions and encourage each other’s.

I know very well how depressing the situation is, but lets have some hope and lets have a dream ... All the thing we need is to improve our communication skills and show respect and speak loudly and to let those at the deanery hear our voices to act immediately and not ASAP, but immediately

Our college recognition is being threatened immensely by this decision and its up to you

Thank you

Mr Ali S Taghi


PS, Yeah. MRCS stands for Member of Royal College of Surgeons and FAAO stands for American Academy of Otolaryngologist, Head and Neck Surgeons
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Posted: November 21, 2007 08:56 pm
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Hi Dr.
Wallah we need alot of help.from where to begin,what to do...etc




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if you need any help I could open channel between you and Iraqi Medical Student at the Imperial Medical school in London


this will be more than great,i think smile.gif


thx alot Dr.
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