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the boss
Posted: March 15, 2007 11:08 am
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hello guys ... how are you .... cool.gif
i want to discuss something really importnant happening in our college and in every college and my be in every thing in the new iraq ..
it is cheating and i am here talking about cheating in exams ... the mid-year exams that just finished a week ago ... there were cells of cheating .. groups that change their places and cheat with even people they dont know(by using symbols)- u know most questions are m.c.q and cheating is easy here ..my name is ahmed and i am sitting in the front line so it is a dream to cheat for me ... but tell me do u cheat (honestly) at exams and ... as i saw .. even the girls who used to tell us that they dont know how 2 cheat ...they know have a new methods of cheating and i know alot of girls in my grade...they are the masters in cheatting.... will those people ...deserve to be a doctor in the future .... we all know they will have a mark they dont deserve ....??? hear from u guys
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Posted: March 15, 2007 02:48 pm
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I dont cheat... you may create a poll here...
I dislike people who asks me to help them..cos I know I will not do much for them ;they even are better than me in degrees
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  Posted: March 15, 2007 04:20 pm
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Great !! wella good for those who don't cheat and doesn't like cheating ... bcmf/thmbup.gif ..that's my opinion .. thanx alot Ahmed for the topic ..

check this too ... http://www.thebcmf.com/index.php?showtopic=952


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Posted: March 16, 2007 07:30 pm
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Hi friends..
thanks A7med for the topic, in fact i wanted to start such a topic ...
So , My current opinion is that I strongly disagree with every studnet thinking -trying-comitting the " Cheating crime" simply its a sin , trait for oneself , college system and the whole community ...
Cheating is ashame cuz ppl who are cheating simply deceive others and thats not acceptible ...
also , cheaters will get marks they don't deserve affecting students who really studied well and that has no justice ...
Last year , in the final exam of Pathology ( 4th grade ) , the questions were of the mcq's type , though they were not hard questions , but a very large number of students did cheat ... and they got marks equal or higher than honest students who did not cheat , that fact really hurt me cuz it injured the ( rewarding system of college ) ...
I hope everyone just quit it , cuz an exam cheater will cheat elsewhere in life as all cheating is the same PLUS we are medical students and we should have strict ethics ...
At last I like to admit that i cheated few times in my life ( especially in high school ) , Meanwhile I really regret it now and i wish i didn't commit it ........
one last statement I strongly believe in is :
Cheaters never win , Winners never cheat
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Posted: March 17, 2007 12:23 am
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it's funny how non-cheaters can't say anything about cheating at college as they will be mocked to death by cheaters but here in our online forum no one seems to be a cheater.
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  Posted: March 17, 2007 08:00 am
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I've browsed the original topic as well as this one and it's quite obvious that most (non-cheating)members somehow believe that cheaters regard cheating as COOL.

Well let's see, in my grade this is not the case at all, at least not to this extent.

To begin with let's just get something clear, cheating is not widely condemned among students and usually not frowned upon but at the same time it's not praised or commended.

Once and for all I'm not justifying I'm just giving my analysis regarding this phenomenon:

You see it's more like there is a code of ethics among most students to help each other out during exams by any conceivable way. I'm not saying it's right I'm just saying it's a fact.
The reasons why this code of ethics had been established are many. Take for example this mysterious subconscious vibe that you can get from the students before any exam and it simply imparts that this exam and these lectures are our enemy and we should all unite in order to conquer it. I know you're laughing it me right now but this is quite true.

The other motive is to violate and oppose the system. The students gets the feeling that 'THEY' made crappy schedules and included subjects that were'nt given in class so why don't I pay them off??

So what I'm trying to reach here is that students cheat not because they have it in the can but because they feel they have to or ought to.
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Posted: March 17, 2007 11:11 am
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QUOTE (m7md7atem @ March 17, 2007 07:00 am)

So what I'm trying to reach here is that students cheat not because they have it in the can but because they feel they have to or ought to.

hey m7med , i guess they cheat cuz they didn't study well , thats why some have the right answers and some just take the answers readily from others .....
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Posted: March 17, 2007 05:56 pm
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QUOTE (cytotoxic @ March 17, 2007 10:11 am)
QUOTE (m7md7atem @ March 17, 2007 07:00 am)

So what I'm trying to reach here is that students cheat not because they have it in the can but because they feel they have to or ought to.

hey m7med , i guess they cheat cuz they didn't study well , thats why some have the right answers and some just take the answers readily from others .....

Not necessarily. Many folks study well and then cheat. It's not a rule. You know better than Ammooory me you've been in this college more than I have smile.gif
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Posted: March 17, 2007 11:08 pm
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it is a dream to cheat for me


me too,honestly rolleyes.gif WE DO CHEAT ON TERMS EXAMS &we do that because most of the students who gets the chance to cheat will not hesitate..offcourse if we know the questions by ourselves there is no need 4 cheating

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but because they feel they have to or ought to.

not that..
in mid year &the finals i don`t cheat aLETTER
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Posted: March 18, 2007 08:16 pm
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i guess they cheat cuz they didn't study well


not all .. i mean some people adore cheating .. like to check their answers and also they dont want to start thinking of their answers .. easy way

i want to say that 2day we took the results of pharma exam .... and the cheating in this exam was unbelievable .. walla i was sad bcoz i see alot of students with very high marks that they dont deserve and believe me .. they are so happy with the way they got it .. i mean ... that student will have a better (sa3y ) than me so ... who will win finally...
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