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Kademad- 02-18-2008
Hello my friends...

Drug addicts suffer in so many ways, some are linked directly to the substances they abuse, but also a great deal of their suffering is caused by the contaminated syringes they use from a person to another which help spread alot of diseases, Hepatitis C, AIDS & others.

Some people are calling for free syringes to be given away in all health centers to help those people who can't take the step to join a rehab, to help save their lives by decreasing the risk of infection.

This is a very controversial point, because on a hand you're helping save lives, but on the other you're helping people to break the law and harm themselves....

What would you choose? and why?


Looking forward to hearing your opinions...


Take Care smile.gif

Hour_Glass- 02-19-2008
http://www.thebcmf.com/index.php?showtopic=2665

Hey Kade,
kindly check the above link smile.gif

i voted 'yes' i will provide syringes for them as i said before i believe in partial victories smile.gif


Regards
Farah Baha

Kademad- 02-19-2008
I'm losing it! ohmy.gif

I defintely am amnesic! lol
Thanks for reminding me Farah...




Let's hear from our new members though... what do you think guys?

SHEREEN- 02-19-2008
al salam alicom
am strongly against
QUOTE
to help save their lives by decreasing the risk of infection
.
i dont think that addicts care about their life
and i believe that any disease will find 100 way to spread is not depend only on contaminated syringe.
and we will courage bad habit
regards

precious- 02-20-2008
قبل ان اصوت عله الموضوع احتاج ان افهم شي
السؤال تعني بيه انو نوافق عله ان يصبح تقديم الحقن النظيفه للمدمنين شي مباح قانونا لان معروف انو الطبيب او الصيدلي او العامل بالمجال الصحي اذا ساعد المدمن عله تعاطي المخدر او قدم اله تسهيلات يعرض نفسه للمساله القانونيه واحتمال يسجن يعني تسال عن تغير مثل هيج قانون بحيث يصبح الطبيب قادر ان يعطي الحقن للمدمن بطيب خاطر ودون مساله قانونيه

او

تسال انو اذا تعرضنا لموقف شخصي من هالنوع اجانا مدمن يريد من عدنا حقنه ننطي او لا؟؟؟

هواي فرق
بالحاله الاولى راح اصوت بالرفض لان هاي بيها تشجيع عله الادمان خصوص وانو احنا نعرف المكانه الاجتماعيه الي للطبيب في قلوب الناس فاذا صار الحال انو الطبيب ينطي الحقن للمدمن بطيب خاطر راح نوصل رساله خاطئه لعامه الناس انو هالشغله مو خطره او سيئه
هذا فضلا عن انو راح نفتح باب للمطالبه بقوانين من هالنوع
يعني يجي فد يوم واحد من المتحذلقين يكلك اني ليش امنع الادمان هاي حريه شخصيه واني المفروض ماادخل بحريه الناس
او يجي واحد من تجار الادويه يكلك المدمن صار مدمن ليش اخليه يخسر امواله وحياته ويصرف كل الي عنده خلي اوفره المخدر بسعر بسيط حته لا يخسر كل حياته
قصدي انو راح افتح الباب لنظريات غريبه عجيبه من هالنوع

وبالحاله الثانيه اذا مريت بموقف فد يوم في مستشفى او صيدليه او بمركز صحي واجاني مدمن يريد حقنه المفروض احاول امنعه او اتصل بالشرطه بس اذا ضاقت بيه السبل وصرت انو اما انطيه الحقنه النظيفه او اتركه يروح يحصلها بطريقته هو بهالحاله اعتقد راح انطيه الحقنه كتصرف شخصي من عندي لان مالايترك كله لا يترك جله


عزيزتي دكتور كاظم اني احييك عله هذا الفورام بس اني اريد اعرف شلون اكبر الكتابه وشلون الونها مثل باقي الاعضاء لان بصراحه كل مااحاول مدا انجح ومااعرف اذا الخلل من عندي يعني اني مااعرف شلون اكبر الكتابه او انو اكو شي لازم اسويه اكون ممنون جدا اذا احد علمني

تحياتي

Kademad- 02-21-2008
Well Precious I'm talking about what you as a person and a doctor would want to do, regardless of the what the law says.
Laws can change, we can change them, and I'm not referring to the law in this particular case, I'm talking in general.

I agree with you regarding the "weird theories" you mentioned, I'm more of a conservative person but I also believe in personal freedom.
To be honest with you I still can't decide upon the question I asked myself... I voted YES but I'm not totally sure... it's a tough decision.

Regarding changing the layout of your text, please refer to the following topic:
http://www.thebcmf.com/index.php?showtopic=1369

Welcome to the BCMF again....

To Shereen:
I'm sad and sorry to read what you wrote about addicts not caring for their lives! do you mean that if someone doesn't care for his/her life others shouldn't care!?
Where's your role as a doctor? where's your role as a life saver? where's your role as a HUMAN?


Take Care smile.gif

SHEREEN- 02-22-2008
QUOTE
I'm sad and sorry to read what you wrote about addicts not caring for their lives! do you mean that if someone doesn't care for his/her life others shouldn't care!?
Where's your role as a doctor? where's your role as a life saver? where's your role as a HUMAN?

احرجتني كلش
يمكن كلامي انفهم غلط
الي اكولة انو انت مة تكدر تساعد انسان هو مة يريد مساعدت نفسة
يعني لو مريض مة قبل يتعالج هل انت تكدر تجبرة ان يدخل مستشفى؟او ياخذ علاج؟
يحقلنة احنا كدكاترة انو نجبر احد يتعالج؟
هذا الي كنت اعني
وانفهم غلط
تحياتي

medicalboy- 02-22-2008
i am against..

if we say (yes) then we are simply making the process easier......instead we should be making it harder........

i think that some of the reasons why addicts quit is that they cant find clean syringes........


QUOTE
I'm sad and sorry to read what you wrote about addicts not caring for their lives! do you mean that if someone doesn't care for his/her life others shouldn't care!?
Where's your role as a doctor? where's your role as a life saver? where's your role as a HUMAN?


you cant help anyone unless he/she wants to help himself/herself...........yet you do care about them ..thats why you shouldnt give them clean syringes...........
as adoctor you do care about people...but its ((useless)) unless they do care and help you to make their lives better......



QUOTE
i believe in partial victories



from my humble opinion this is apartial victory which will lead to anational failure.



regards.

precious- 02-22-2008
QUOTE (precious @ February 20, 2008 03:42 pm)

بالحاله الاولى راح اصوت بالرفض لان هاي بيها تشجيع عله الادمان خصوص وانو احنا نعرف المكانه الاجتماعيه الي للطبيب في قلوب الناس فاذا صار الحال انو الطبيب  ينطي الحقن للمدمن بطيب خاطر راح نوصل رساله خاطئه لعامه الناس انو هالشغله مو خطره او سيئه

شكرا جزيلا الك دكتور كاظم ولو الورده شيرين سبقتك وعلمتني اني ممنون منها

اتمنه اكون وضحت الصوره لان المفروض المدمن وعامه الناس يعرف انو هالحاله خطا وخطره جدا ولازم منسهللهم الشغله ونعمل عله تثقيفهم بخطوره هاي المسائل


وحته عله مستوى الموقف الشخصي الذي ذكرته اني والي انطي بيه الحقنه النظيفه للمدمن هم يتغير بتغير الظروف يعني اذا اجاني ثاني يوم واستمر عله هالحاله متصور انو عنده مصدر ميخلص لازم افكر قبل ان استمر
واحتمال يجيب غير ناس عليه هاي حاله هم لازم انتبه الها
وهم اذا عرفت انو اذا تركته ومنطيته راح يروح يبطل لان ماعنده مصدر اخر


يعني كحاله عامه هي مرفوضه بس تبقه المواقف يحددها الطبيب بظروفها ويتخذ القرار المناسب

تحياتي

Tina- 05-21-2008
hi all

i see a nice civilized conversation here smile.gif

i think our rule as Doctors, providing clean syringes, which everyone can get from anywhere ! is the not the choice ! .. may be a simple person can think this way, but not us ..
instead, when we catch an addict, our rule comes in helping him quit his addiction, by providing the right medical Rx for addicts .. & thank God we have free medical services in our country smile.gif .. dont you think its a positive point we can use for the benefits of the others ?

Regards

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