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hugElephant- 11-08-2005
LECTURES "wama adrak ma lectures.. waghaf'n.. na3as'n.. *9ojat'n.. la manfa3t'n"
seriouslly... what is the benefit of entering lectures?
is there any benefit? I dont think there is any. so if you see any benefit EVEN A TINY ONE tell us about it.
By the way, I hope that this topic will change the mind of those who insist to enter ALL the lectures. wink.gif

ali al-kafaji- 11-08-2005
WELL I AM NOT FROM THOSE WHO ENTER ALL LECTURES ,BUT THERE ARE LECTURES THAT DESERVE TO, THERE BENEFIT IS THAT IT GIVES U A GENERAL IDAE ABOUT THE SUBJECT SO THAT WHEN U MEMORIZE IT OR WHEN U BEEN ASKED IN THE COURSE (PRACTICAL) ABOUT IT U CAN ANSWER WITHOUT READING THE LECTURE ALSO IF U DID NOT CACH UP TO READ IT BEFORE EXAM U CAN ANSWER A GENERAL LINES FROM WHAT U REMEMBER IN THE LECTURE U ENTERD THAT IS ALL ..........I AM WITH U ABOUT IT BEING BORING AND DIZZY BUT (C'EST LA VIE) AND THANKS.



ALI

ali faris- 11-09-2005
Surely,I am with entering lectures:

for two reasons:

1.The informative advantages of some lecs (as Ali adil said)
2.Lectures without advantage(ofcource to some students) can be entered to avoid
the disadvantage of being outside (touring!).

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bilal muthana- 11-09-2005
dear Hugelephant biggrin.gif .....
u r right about some points regarding attending the lectures but there is a point, as i know u r in the second grade bcmf/passifier.gif (just joking) but what am saying is that your subjects r already boring ,it's not a matter of attending the lectures or not even your practical work is boring and not very useful as i think but when u enter the real life of medicine and clinical subjects (4th grade wa inta 9a3id) u will have fun with your subjects they will be more interesting and u'll fell that they r closer to your life as a doctor....so the attendance of lectures will be of good benefit believe me...i know i talked too much but i hope the idea (wi9letlek) bcmf/thmbup.gif

Kademad- 11-09-2005
I totally agree with Bilal, and want to say that basic sciences are really important, don't ignore them coz you'll be sorry later. You'll feel "trapped" coz u can't compensate for ur lack of basic info later on when u want to study well, if u get what I mean?

yezen- 11-09-2005
QUOTE (ali al-kafaji @ Nov 9 2005, 02:17 AM)
WELL I AM NOT FROM THOSE WHO ENTER ALL LECTURES ,BUT THERE ARE LECTURES THAT DESERVE TO, THERE BENEFIT IS THAT IT GIVES U A GENERAL IDAE ABOUT THE SUBJECT SO THAT WHEN U MEMORIZE IT

I agree with Ali here and wish to add that entering some lectures really gives u the sense of commitment and sometimes gives you a great wahis to study smile.gif ...and for the 2nd year i remember some of the physio lectures were so interesting.. bcmf/thmbup.gif

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kademad: and want to say that basic sciences are really important


sure they are but i don't know...i just feel they are being taught in a strange confusing way...but still of a great help in most of ur medical study... smile.gif

Tina- 11-10-2005
hi hugElephant ...

if u r in the 2nd stage as the guys r sayin ... then i know y u r feelin bored in lectures ... coz u may think that the basic signs u r takin now r of no benefit ...

so i wanna tell u that those basic signs r sooooooooooo important in ur next stages & u gotta understand them so well if u want things 2 b easier 4 u in ur future study ... as Kademad said ... bcmf/yesss.gif

do u believe that i am now gonna read the Anatomy of the upper & lower limbs 4 my orthopedics cource i am takin now unsure.gif ... i have 2 study in Grant's again ... ! ... & also from time 2 time i pick up my Grant's when readin other lectures ...

not only anatomy ... but also the Physiology is sooooooooo important 4 u 2 compare between the normal & abnormal functions later ...

Histology ... u will need it in pathology in th 3rd & 4th stages ...

Embryology comes on mentionin in our lectures from time 2 time ...

& so on with the other basic sciences ...

so good luck hugElephant smile.gif

Nour- 11-11-2005
Hi HugElephant,

Well, I want to say too, even if lectures are boring, sometimes you feel SO GOOD about yourself to remember a topic of biochemistry that was mentioned in the lecture later when you have to study BASIC science for exams that you may need to do after graduation. Sometimes few words would be useful to help you remember the topic you will need to revise.

And besides, if they are too boring, I suggest you try to see the clinical point of view of certain topics...and this would be found in some for example USMLE MCQ...

You can go to the library and ask for some MCQ books or clinical MCQ that connects the boring side of our informations with some clinical notes...that would help you keep the information and attend the lectures more willingly...

THink about it....maybe you enter a lec, go home see some MCQ points of CLINICAL points about the lec u entered...and feel GREAT about yourself....then you will feel greater perhaps when you remember the info later at 5th year in Medicine or any.. cool.gif

Hope that helps.

Udaisa- 11-11-2005
hi guys, hi mr hugiez-no-mo-huge lol.. as i was checkin these loads of replies out i just said "3ali sh7achak??" lol... as u see guys, he ddn't post a reply at all lol.. well 3allawi, ive always hated the lecs nd stuff.. i bet u remember me.. nd i know what makes u feel that bad towards the lecs.. maybe ur just like the old me.. feelin that the system is all "messed" up... i don't wanna be long nd talk about the advantages nd disadvantages of our college that i ddn't see until now.. but ill tell u one thing.. i really wish i can go back to this college nd be more studious than ever (with limits of course lol).. i know ur probably sayin "what the heck?!! u sure ur udaisa????!!!" but man, you donno what ur missing.. finally, i don' know how many lecs u have a day.. but if it is two a day, as it was, then attend one nd miss one.. fair enough?? don't miss 'em all ali.. thx alot.. bye

UDAISA

hugElephant- 11-11-2005
thank you all for your advices.
and as you said Udaisa sh7achany!
I know you all know what you are talking about but the thing you dont know is that I hate medicine in the first place! I know you might be surprised BUT its the truth.
and what increases the problem is that doctors are "shayleen khashemhum" no offence, and they are really really boring.
I hope there is somebody who might understand what Im saying.
BUT after all what had I said; I think the most convenient reply was that of Bilal thanx alot.
and to you Udaisa I think you went nuts dude, what had they done to you man?!
thank you all again.

bilal muthana- 11-11-2005
3eni hugElephant did u see a doctor who teaches medicine??!! do u know how many doctors teaches medicine??! they r too many so they r nearly impossible to remember them all!! so u can't judje them unless u see them...each one has his own personality but that's not the issue i think u will change your mind later...
for u udaisa as i know u r abroad now and u only spend the first stage in our college, so how on earth did u get all that ideas about our system in college??!! huh.gif but if u mean the system and rules concerning the first stage only then u could have a point...and about attending one lec. and leaving the other ,well it may be useful if he knows what lectures will he pick.... bcmf/thinking.gif

Udaisa- 11-11-2005
hi everybody,
well bilal, believe me i know what im talkin about.. i just don't have time to explain.. nd one lec is better than none.. its just that u donno 3ali '3alib.. nd thx dude cuz u care bcmf/60.gif ..
nd for u 3allawi, ive never changed.. how could u believe that i changed???.. i just said that to encourage u biggrin.gif ... nd thats cuz i want the best for u 3allawi...
thx guys.. 'byez

Neo1073- 11-11-2005
heyy alllaawwyyy

this year i go to most of the lectures ..(the biochemistry cause i write them biggrin.gif ) ..but the others .. cause i really enjoying the questions ofthe dr.s and their clinical notes sometimes .. although we'rein the basic sciences still , but its nice to have clinical notes ..
and beleive it or not .. we're gonna have a new dr. in physio and he asked me wha'ts the thing to make students come and that time i realized that the thing to make students like(come to ) lectures is :

1. asking questions and giving them buzz!
(may be it includes marks with those questions )

2.connecting between basic sciences and clinical by somenotes .. that makes us feel we're in the medical school and that makes entering the lecture is soo important coz these kinda notes doens't exist in the istinsa7*!

Neo

maroosh- 11-11-2005
hiiiiiiiiiiii all.i read ur replies & found them so useful.as i think the benefit of entering lecs is to fully understand the subject so u wont take along time in studying them .some docts points 2 usefull things that we can get use of in future & these things r not found in coupied lecs.Believe me some notes may come in the exam even they r small they may solve a question(i tried it).i think (bdal ma nthae3 kol alwaket khley nstfad wa natwanas)coz this time we will b asked about when we meet our GOD.
marwa k.alalusi wink.gif

Nour- 11-12-2005
Well HugElephant,

You might HATE medicine, and you might hate our system and hate everything in it.

But do you know there are countries that don't even have MEDICAL colleges? There are students who try hard to study and their dream is to be DOCTORS, but for some reason or another, they don't become ones....

I think if we consider these points and put them in mind, we'll be grateful to our country's history at least that it gave birth to this college and those little left professors who are trying their best to stay in college and teach us.

Besides, maybe you can talk to the doctor!!! Like Neo said about Physio new doctor....I think that is a MARVELLOUS idea Neo, WELL DONE


If you say you are a medical student to anyone in the world...first reaction will be wow...you have great responsiblity, great mission, you are a noble person, even if people don't admit it, they know it when they'll need you badly, so BEAT the bad teaching and try to make everything on your side. and GOOD LUCK. bcmf/thmbup.gif

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