and again ...
Don't take life too seriously ppl, NO WAY you'll get out of it alive!
please 7amoodi, 3alaawy and all 2nd. (or 3rd. for most of u ) stage's, pleeeeeeeease stop bothering yourself with this topic!
you see, HAD ANYONE of you even once had the idea (even only once) that when we'd reach college 7e9aar is gone (I don't want to mention another thing !) .. point is: what you're disscusing right now is faaaar from happening to you, circumstanses are in excessively rapid change, ppl cann't you see that! ...
Live your life my friends and let them do your fight! ....

Thank you .....

Awal marra ti7chi 7chaya 3adla Hugie!

well its my first real discussing reply since I returned ...
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hehehehe....well surely I'm still only in the 3rd grade and there's still 4 more years 2 graduate (fee a7san ala7wal) but this new policy concerns & affects my future plans.... I think that is 2 obvious....

well till now I am unable 2 recognize this HUGE difference cuz in both cases u want to say that our maturity is not enough 2 deal with these issues .... mo lo mo mo??

well it's definitely an aim eventhough not the most important 1...

very meaningful we should all put thatt in mind... but if u were pointing 2 me then I would like 2 say that I said nothing against it

I have never ever heard of a minister or a Dr.negotiating with a student b4 well I mean in Iraq & in respectful way..... dear bro they won't accept negotiation cuz they didn't even asked us about our opinions & they won't pay attention 2 our reactions

where did u get this 90% from ???? did u make a survey or something???
thanian t3al agollak : aren't all the great Iraqi doctors FRCS or MRCP holders?? if u don't know go read the DALEEL AL6ALIB & check how most of our Drs. have completed their higher medical education abroad then they came back 2 serve their country... isn't that right???!!!!!.....
do u think I will prefer to serve a Scottish wacko than 2 serve an Iraqi baby??? (bilmonasaba jomoltak 6idog feka 6alla3itni 3abalak 5a'in ilbaladi )
look bro. only god& my family know how I love Iraq....last year I was able 2 stay in the UK easily & live a very decent peacefull life there but I refused & I preferred 2 come back 2 Iraq & I endured all the blaming from my family & relative to bring my family back 2 risk and I WILL DO IT THIS YEAR INSHAALLA... that's somthing u can ask about if u don't beleive me... so u shouldn't talk like u r the most honest Iraqi citizen and like the others are traitors....

at last all I wanna say is that my biggest fear now that Yezen & Kadem may consider my replies offensive 2 them... well bros. they were't offensive 2 u maybe they were offensive 2 the new policy...
take care guys....howwa anee 5alag wa7id 6af thalith w dawwa5kom b7achi mo gad 3omra

obviously it is ... and maturity has nothing to do with age...

I don't understand....so why the bother ?? .. plus if there haven't been any negotiation and ma adreee shnoo b4 as u say... must'nt there be a first time for everything...? or if we miss a right way of communication we shall keep experiencing the other wrongs no matter how obvious it...

do you really think so?? do u think that the so-called great doctors are great just because they've earned that fancy degree?and because they were mentioned in the doctors' guide booklet.?? do u really think so... so it is becoming like a prestige or something.. either u get ur FRCS & MRCP or u r such a lousy doctor...

not yet ...

we have indeed Sinan..but tell me have we seen the bigger part of the society namely the "patient" ? have we?

I had have my doubts about u from the beginning ..so just tell me what do u mean by "we" ...



Just want to say that there is the principle and there is the implementation ... I am against the massive migration of dooctors the way it happens here..but i am against dealing with that the way we assume the ministry has ... again i am against that assumed policy yet i am against dealing with it inappropriately ...


salam..

علكيفكم شباب ترو الموضوع ميستاهل هالنقاش الحاد لانه الفاس وكع بالراس بعد ..........واني اعتذر لانه الظاهر الصوج صوجي لانه كل مواضيعي تجي من وراها مشاكل لو اني اتلاطش وية احد لو الناس تتلاطش ابيناتهم......ههههههههه

first of all

of course not

i just want to you all to know that we are just discusing our situation which is not in our hands and that
اختلاف الرأي لا يفسد القضية (واله ما اعرف هو شنو المضبوط بس المهم وصلت الفكرة)1

we are not bothering ourselves but we are dicusing our ideas (and i think its one of the most important aims of this fourm)

and do you think that our study is a good study you know well our situation in iraq all the studieis are following the way of al7awasim
and i also think that you know very well that all of us are called student of medicine but in real world most of us are not cuz our study is very bad

and again this is just discusing a matter which we can not choose its solution

Exactly .. Then why to bother? (sorry I meant to disscus)! ...

and can you predict it? moreover what can you do about it?

you see my friend ...

hi huge i dont think that you got the idea
we must see our present very well to plan our future you cant say
خليه على الله وهية تصفة
here we are saying our opinions of this decision

and we will stay at home waiting for our future to come to us and say
هو هذا الوضع تعبان احنه شعلينه
and according to your words no one will work and every thing will be stopped cuz you cant predict the future

NONE ENDing DISCUSSION ... you see we're going no where!
Let's do it later my frined .. not here
you know me and you know that I have learned that:
Da3 el2yama taf3al maa tasha2o ........
and it was you suggesting that my friend and I was the one opposing you remember? ... we'll talk about this later, I think this site cann't handle both of us! ... ..
dear 3alaawy ...

yes i told you that but each caes is different

now i hope this topic is ended
i hope that every one showed his opinion
and we are all brothers here

It doesn't have to end Alawy.. .. having different opinions is among the healthiest things in life..... thank God we have that and we have the right and the freedom to express them...

and yes we are still brothers here..and inshalla we willbe for ever...

salam...

STILL ???!!!! of course bro..I wouldn't even imagine that such a an arguement can make us less than bros.
yella shabab every1 has his own opinion & also every1 is fighting to support this opinion ...... the Golden Rule is not 2 b offensive 2 any1 ... I think no1 was ....
yella bye salmoona